Cocks: I think most people hear the Cat proud to be an Americat shirt and I love this word ‘fanfic’ and they think of the stories that are like, ‘Snape and Hagrid carry on a torrid love affair in his cabin.’ It’s a much broader genre than that. Heather and I, I’m going to knock on wood, don’t really fight. We maybe get moderately irritated with each other for five minutes, occasionally, but we really have a very healthy relationship. We just kind of talk it out. We work from a big outline, so we have agreed with what is going to happen throughout the book before we even start writing it. Otherwise, I think that would really make things difficult. I have to admit that I do have an irritating habit that I’m sure drives Heather crazy. It’s unintentional, but in the course of figuring stuff out, sometimes she will pitch something to me, and I’ll say, ‘Nope, we’re not going to do that,’ and then three weeks later I will be like, ‘What if we do yada-yada?’ And it’s what she pitched me. Then she’ll be like, ‘That’s my idea.’ You just sort of lose track of what was said and when. As preeminent royal experts, how do you see the state of the monarchy now, both in light of Harry and Meghan leaving, and it being a thoroughly white institution that isn’t very keen to acknowledge its colonial history? It’s interesting to think how much that is maybe going to rest on Charles. The impression that I’ve gotten over the years is that there is a lot of enduring love or respect for Queen Elizabeth, because she has reigned so long. Her face has been on the money and most people have never known it any other way. There has never really been that fondness for Charles. But Charles as a person has been more progressive on a lot of issues, like sustainability and the environment. Of course, he has not been vocal about Meghan and racism and Black Lives Matter, and I know there are a lot of issues tied up in that with what’s political and what’s not. I know that it sure feels like they ought to be saying something. I’m going to be extremely interested to see what happens over the next 15 years. I don’t think it’s out of the realm of possibility to look at the world and the British royal family and think, Is there really a place for this in the modern era?
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It’s hard to think of a show in recent memory that has sparked more rabid conversation (and tributes to its actors’ sartorial choices) than Normal People. The Hulu adaptation of Sally Rooney’s best-selling novel made instant stars of its protagonists, Paul Mescal and Daisy Edgar-Jones, but they never really got to experience their newfound fame in the Cat proud to be an Americat shirt and I love this traditional way: The series’ first season was released in late April, once the international response to COVID-19 was already well underway. Things are starting to lighten up a little bit here, and I’ve been able to see my family a bit more, which is lovely. Hanging out with my friends, even in a way that’s socially distanced, is so nice. I’ve been very busy working, which I’m very grateful for at the moment, because I need structure. It’s very odd! It’s been a strange time for everyone, obviously, due to the pandemic, and that whole experience is turning everything a bit topsy-turvy. It’s hard to differentiate between the strangeness for me specifically and the strangeness for everyone. I don’t know exactly what will happen after everything (hopefully) goes back to normal. We went to the PGA Awards, but we weren’t able to do anything around promotion of the show, and I am really excited to experience some of that. I’ve been very lucky when I’ve gone out and had interactions with people, but my main experience with people watching the show has really only been through my phone and social media. It’s been so nice to have more real interactions lately or hear that people liked it or connected to the character of Marianne. One lady came up to me and said, “I just have to say that I’m reading Normal People in my book group today, and my friends aren’t going to believe that I saw you.” My best friend Becca was on the floor laughing! Yes! We filmed a comedy sketch a few weeks ago, which was nice. I’ve seen so much of Paul Mescal, but it’s been via Zoom, and we’re desperate to celebrate together after going through the whole filming process as a team. It’s odd not to be able to experience this part of the process together, but we can’t wait to hang out with all our friends from the show. Well, on Saturday the pubs were open, and I’m really looking forward to having an actual poured pint. I didn’t think that would ever be something I was looking forward to! I just can’t wait to have my friends over without having to socially distance, although we’ll start slow, with one person coming over at a time.